UBW is said to be only effective against Gilgamesh. Her speed is a function of Prana Burst which only depends on prana. The immediate conclusion may be Saber, but there's a lot to consider: In HF, Shirou's Triple-Linked Crane Wings were able to defeat Saber Alter, who was slower but more powerful than Saber. If she is, then Archer obviously loses, if she isn't then he has a chance because of her downgraded skills. Shirou offers to help and Rin gives him her prana. She dresses in a revealing red and white dress with long poofy sleeves, a transparent front, leotard, and knee high golden armored boots. Hell, its even stated by Zouken that despite being physically superior to Berserker as Alter, she would likely lose if the Shadow wasn't there binding him and slowing his attacks to a speed she could manage and berserker lacks any semblance of technique, so there is a possibility it may work. VS Saber: Unless she is sniped due to having to protect her master while he is acting like a brainless idiot, Archer is pretty much screwed. The rest of it ranged from uninspired to disappointing compared to its potential. Putting Archer in a close quarter fight means total defeat for him. "Still, Excalibur was originally something entrusted by the fairy of the lake, so there shouldn't be anything weird even if it possessed the water-attribute". Some people think that just because Shirou managed to incapacitate her means Archer would be able to do the same, the only reason Alter didn't defeat Shirou with Morgan spam in SLH is because she was giving him a chance. She very clearly still held some emotion for him and wanted to see him succeed. Post with 2725 views. Guest. She would not give Archer such chance though, she'd treat him as she treated Rider. He is the Card User of the second Archer Class Card of the Fifth Ainsworth Holy Grail War. MangaDex. Saber Alter stomp. Depends if Saber Alter is linked with the grail or not. What Actually Happened: Archer Vs.Caster ... Saber vs Archer (different Archer) 2 years ago. MangaDex. For everything related to Fate/stay night or its spin-offs. Legend says that he has forged a demon sword that antagonizes the Tokugawa clan. What do you all think? Keeping it brief, with both Servants having equal Masters and dropped into a room together, it's probably gonna be a pretty one-sided fight. 1 - Shirou vs Archer cook-off! With the Greater Grail feeding her with functionally limitless mana, she has no need to even cross blades with Archer to win. Archer has far more experience than him and his UBW would likely be stronger. Its a close match when Gilgamesh is only partially using SNI but he's legitimately on par with high tier divine spirits when he uses the ability to its fullest. As a result, Saber's stats are as strong as they'd be if Rin were her Master. Him replicating Saber's sword is a massive bluff since whatever he constructs is one rank weaker for normal weapons made of earthly elements. Without her direct link to the grail, is another story as she can't rely on the ludicrous healing and her useage on her NP is similar to regular Saber. Although, how can Excalibur Morgan destroy RM's? I love Archer, but I think his chances are low enough he should be hoping for a mutual kill at best. He isn't physically the strongest servant, and his fighting style is very crafty and about him pulling out one specific trick after another. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Also, he knows what Saber really motives for the grail, which Saber from the UBW did not tell Emiya. If it's in a room at close range he has literally no chance. UBW was noted to only be a mildly annoyance against other heroes not named Gilgamesh, and Excalibur Morgan can dissipate Archer's RM. Thats one of the best things about it. Seriously though, it could go either way in practically any fight in the Fate series, like in real life. It also means she's probably more likely to use underhanded or dishonorable tactics to achieve her ends, since she is much more focused on the end results than being overly concerned about how she gets there. In HF regardless on if she wanted it or not, Shirou does beat her using a technique of archers when it is stated that she can't hold back due to being blackened. Fate/Zero, Fate/hollow ataraxia, Fate/Extra, Fate/Grand Order, The Case … When two Holy Swords collide, no one in the vicinity could survive. Like you said, his Fate route loss was due to being blindsided by Avalon and treating things like a game as usual. If he's locked into close range-combat, against a Rin-powered Saber (who is an absolute monster at close range) I really don't see him winning 99 times out of 100. Also, if Saber activated her NP, Archer states he could replicate it resulting in their mutual destruction. Him replicating Saber's sword is a massive bluff since whatever he constructs is one rank weaker for normal weapons made of earthly elements. 3 years ago Depends if Saber Alter is linked with the grail or not. Anything from close to mid-far range (as long as he can be seen by Lancer) would be too disadvantageous for Archer to win. Vs Lancer: Second verse, same as the first. To be frank, Saber Alter would be nowhere near the threat she was without being directly connected to the grail and to be honest I find her to be overexaggerated in terms of danger level. Following Rider's death, Archer and Saber debate over how Rider was killed; while Saber claims she died in honor protecting her Master, Archer claims she was a weakling, once again creating a rift between him and the others. Triple-Linked Crane Wings worked on Alter because she didn't have instinct. Saber completely carried the show and game, in terms of personality, back story, appearance, etc. 1 Ch. ), a Pseudo-Servant in the body of Shirou Emiya. But against Rider, she didn't pull out Morgan until it was clear Rider was using Bellerophon. Mar 3, 2020 - Post with 11829 views. 1 Profile 1.1 Background 1.2 Appearance 1.3 Personality 2 Role 2.1 Fate/kaleid liner PRISMA☆ILLYA 3rei!! He is honorable in battle, always maintaining a degree of bushido, and he is not the type who would attack defenseless women and children. There were stories about his Katana that killed Toku… BNC Scanlation. Before True Archer can confront them, False Archer becomes offended by Saber and attacks him instead. Saber has to go on the offensive at some point and when she does, Gil will pick her apart. Saber and Archer battle outside of the church, far enough to prevent any interference from Masters. His best bet would be to utilise it to distract and delay Alter from fully attacking him while he sets up a Caladbolg or Triple linked crane wings. 2 years ago. For the 4 , see Mordred (Rider). Isn't Ea the only one that can do that outright to RM's, except for special cases like Ionian Hetairoi where 'just' killing enough of his men can dissipate it? Assassin is quiet and composed, and while his general tone has a mocking nature to it, he takes it to another level with Caster. VS. Saber of Black (Pre & Post Heart Transfer). After Saber is snatched away by Caster, Rin decides to rescue her so Saber can be returned to Shirou. Since he doesn't have any range in this fight, that also means he can't rely on any broken phantasms without blowing himself up with her. Once you get to Kojirō, that realization will be NO. Search results for fate stay night lancer GIFs. Would her abysmal Agility actually make her one of the few people susceptible to UBW, or would her armour probably be too much for UBW's degraded weaponry? That doesn't matter. Archer only options are bp ,if its a fight in open space its 50/50 chance for both of them,even nasu commented on it,if its in a room saber takes it, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the fatestaynight community. Really bother to look at what Agility represents for any given hero and wonder whether that innately has anything to do with speed. This is assuming that Saber Alter doesn't simply spam Excalibur Morgan at Archer, however. Regardless of how powerful Morgan is and how much she can spam it, it doesn't mean a thing if she doesn't have a chance to charge and activate it. Winner by KO, Incapacitation or Death. Her downgraded instinct and agility is what kills her in SLH and on the real route in HF. Let's say UBW went differently. Mashu Kyrielight received an animation update during theE Pluribus Unum Chapter Release and a sprite update during theAnastasia Chapter Release. Archers are super effective against Sabers, Archer would win. Yes she did, it was just lowered by a rank. If she is, then Archer obviously loses, if she isn't then he has a chance because of her downgraded skills. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. Muramasa is a famed blacksmith within Ise Province. Archer vs. Saber (F/sn) WritingPrompt. Excalibur Vivian. Who would win? 1,506 1k. is the parallel version of the Shirou from Miyu's world. Create and share your own fate stay night lancer GIFs, with Gfycat Considering how when Shirou fought Gilgamesh in the UBW finale, Shirou noted that UBW wouldn't work against ordinary Servants due to their mastery of a single weapon, one would assume this would be the case most of the time. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the fatestaynight community. In character. I dont remember exactly, but I believe what Archer meant when he said that the clash of his copy and excalibur would cause destruction was more in that it would destroy the surrounding area, not Saber or himself. Oblivious to why this succeeded compared to the other permutations of females in various master/slave roles they tried, they resorted to copying their own character. Archer isn't a very strong servant and he admits that and it is why he is in the archer class, to compensate for that. Mordred Hits: 2|3|1|4 Mana Burst A Increases own Buster performance for 1 turn. The thing is, is that it's a mild annoyance to other heroes...but other heroes don't have D-Rank Agility. Shirou Emiya(衛宮士郎, Emiya Shirō?) Gilgamesh is the first Servant to receive an animation update twice. He willingly keeps Saber from exposing he… No, she saw it coming, her body just couldn't react fast enough. Fate/Zero, Fate/hollow ataraxia, Fate/Extra, Fate/EXTELLA, Fate/Grand Order, Fate/Apocrypha, Fate/Strange Fake, The Case Files of Lord El-Melloi II, Fate/Requiem, Fate/type Redline, etc., discuss all of these and more on this subreddit! This article is for Mordred. He would get wrecked by her. His only chance otherwise is to put her in position where she can't use her NP easily and somehow outskill her, something I don't see happening. Saber is a blond-haired young girl of short but curvy stature with pale skin, yellow-ish blond hair with intake and bright lime green eyes. Excalibur is not completely made of earthly elements and his replication of that sword would be even weaker because of that. Shirou's was the only one said to be weak against everyone else. It worked on her beacuse of the crippling AGI loss she took when becoming Alter. Saber normally ties her long, flowing h… https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Saber_(Fate/Grand_Order_-_Surtr) But regardless in my opinion UBW has a higher chance of working on Alter than Lancer or normal Saber but it's still not much of an improvement. It would be a really bad copy with him filling up the divine parts with other parts, basically it would be an entirely different sword, not even a copy. For everything related to Fate/stay night or its spin-offs. Archer and saber battle against a berserker and it is intense. Saber is basicly superior, but Archer had at least his long range(so it depends much on version and master). In Fate/Zero, Rider's D-Rank Agility put him too slow to block every shot aimed at him from Gate of Babylon, while Unlimited Blade Works is shown to be faster than Gate of Babylon, and Saber Alter's also got D-Rank Agility, the lowest in F/SN (Caster's got C-Rank, at least...). Cookies help us deliver our Services. Archer pretty much gets beat in close range combat against superior duelists like Lancer and Saber. Standard gear and abilities. In the first place, Agility is a functionally meaningless stat when it comes to speed. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Archer vs FZ Caster - Archer has mediocre Endurance, there is no telling for how long he can stand up to the endlessly respawning monsters, but he can probably blast his way through with a BF much like Saber did with Invisible Air, bur Caster also got away that time and Saber also had Lancers backup. Vol. This is a list for Servants who received battle animation and/or sprite updates. Archer (Composite F/sn Routes). Saber vs Archer, who will emerge victorious? Jeanne d'Arc is the first Servant to have received a sprite update twice. True Archer observes their battle, impressed by Saber's prowess and the fact his power is natural and not granted by the gods. Some of the differences may not be visible right away as the patch for the Japanese version is … Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. What makes him so powerful is his versatility and ability to control the battlefield. Even if he were bluffing, it shows he could manipulate her into not using her NP. I'd imagine if she get a good Excaliblast Morgan in, Archer wouldn't be able to put up a strong enough shield against it and possibly OHKO him, though... UBW would annoy/slow her down while Archer would execute her with Crane Wing.If a mind broken Shirou could do it then Archer can easily do it as well. Snipes or he is a goner. What makes Archer a good servant is that he has a good kit and is very smart about using it however his real strength is in his long range capabilities. Archer betrays Rin and sides with Caster far earlier. Indeed, how childish. Even though Saber's Instinct is superior to Archer's Eye of the Mind, the latter can still use it to dodge attacks too fast for him to see.